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Malte Landwehr (Peec AI): AI Search, Zero-Click & the Renaissance of PR

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How visible is your brand really in ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, or Google AI Overviews – and what happens to your communication when more and more searches end in zero-click results? GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) is no longer just hype; it is a serious channel. Ever since companies began investing heavily in AI search tools, it has become clear: AI search is here to stay. Yet, many communications, SEO, and marketing teams still lack a clear picture of how they appear in these systems – and what role PR plays in that process.

In this episode of narrative now, host Max speaks with Malte Landwehr, CPO & CMO of Peec AI – one of the fastest-growing AI startups in Europe, which measures how visible brands truly are in AI systems. Together, they provide a status update on AI search in Q1 2026: How are ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, Grok, and others evolving? What do Google’s AI Overviews mean for SEO traffic and zero-click search? And why is it no longer enough to look only at classic rankings, CTR, and web sessions when LLMs are already influencing purchasing decisions, B2B pre-selection, and contract negotiations?

Malte explains how AI answers are technically generated – from training models and knowledge graphs to the grounding process – and where companies can actually take action today: through SEO optimized for AI visibility and always-on digital PR that ensures brands regularly appear in relevant sources (news, trade media, forums, social content). He explains why PR is experiencing such a renaissance, which metrics count for AI visibility (e.g., Share of Model/Share of Voice in LLMs), and how GEO, SEO, PR, and brand strategy must work together in the future to ensure brands don't disappear from AI responses.

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In a nutshell

  • GEO is a channel, not a trend Malte explains why AI search and GEO have been more than just a LinkedIn buzzword since 2025: usage of ChatGPT and Gemini is growing, Google is actively pushing users into AI Overviews, and capital is flowing into tools that measure AI visibility. Anyone planning communication can no longer ignore AI search.
  • Zero-click and AI Overviews are changing SEO Studies show rising zero-click rates and significantly declining organic clicks once AI Overviews are displayed – especially for evergreen content. Malte explains what this means for publishers, brands, and classic SEO strategies.
  • AI systems as the new recommendation engine LLMs now influence contract reviews, tool selection, tax topics, and B2B purchasing decisions. A significant portion of people trust AI answers – and use them as advisors throughout the entire decision-making process.
  • Four levels of AI visibility – two real levers The model and knowledge graph are largely beyond influence. Things get really interesting in the grounding phase: this is where it is decided which websites and sources appear in AI answers. This is exactly where the interplay between technical SEO and digital PR comes into play.
  • Always-on digital PR and consistent campaigns LLMs work with a recency bias: they prefer to pull from more recent documents. This makes always-on PR a technical necessity. Malte explains why it no longer makes sense to "switch PR on and off" and how budgets can be focused on a few truly relevant sources.
  • New metrics for AI visibility Instead of just rankings and clicks, key figures like Share of Model/Share of Voice in relevant chats, sentiment in AI answers, and the composition of the competitive set now count. Malte shows how data-driven marketers are suddenly discovering PR as a measurable lever for AI visibility.
  • Rethinking brand, SEO, PR, and attribution When recommendations in AI systems are not directly clickable, the logic of attribution shifts. More direct traffic, more brand searches, fewer clear referrers – and yet a massive influence on the funnel. The result: brand building, PR, SEO, and measurement must be thought of more closely together.

this is for you

This episode is a must for CMOs, communications and marketing managers, SEO leads, and PR teams who…

  1. want to understand how AI search, GEO, and AI Overviews are changing the rules of the game for digital visibility.
  2. need to understand what zero-click search, ChatGPT, Gemini, and similar tools specifically mean for your company's traffic, funnel, and communication strategy.
  3. don't want to leave AI visibility to chance – but instead want to know which levers they can actively pull today using SEO, digital PR, and content.
  4. want to think of PR as an always-on growth driver that measurably contributes to AI answers, recommendations, and brand search – rather than just as a campaign sidekick.
  5. want to expand their measurement logic: moving away from pure click-attribution models toward metrics like share of model, sentiment, and competitive benchmarking in AI systems.
  6. hold responsibility in communication, marketing, SEO, or corporate communications and want to ensure that their brand is still present in ChatGPT, Gemini, and Google AI Overviews in 2026.

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